[Fosc] dog fight

mjrauz at aol.com mjrauz at aol.com
Tue Jul 8 09:12:44 PDT 2008

Some thoughts I had are- Signs are in place and they are defaced and some were torn down and thrown away by the public. Some dog walkers don't want to travel up hill to the dog park. El Centro trail is narrower than EBPD fire trails so dogs walk by each other and sometimes trouble starts. As Brent mentioned, some people will have excuses for off-leashing it, and the same is probably the case for picking up poop. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Laurel Kunit <laurelnk at gmail.com>
To: Brent <englund at aol.com>
Cc: Vaughan <baysidebob at sbcglobal.net>; FOSC at lists.sausalcreek.org; mjrauz at aol.com
Sent: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 8:07 am
Subject: Re: [Fosc] dog fight

I too think that clear, official signage at the trailheads (in both Dimond Canyon Park and Joaquin Miller Park) would go a long way toward reducing this problem.  Many people do not understand that these "natural" parks are indeed part of the City of Oakland park system, and that city leash laws apply.  People often think that these parks are part of the East Bay Regional Park system, which allows dogs off-leash on the trails.  Signs could possibly even direct dog owners to the nearest legal off-leash area.

-Laurie Kunit

On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 12:04 AM, Brent <englund at aol.com> wrote:

I don't think it's a problem of lazy OPD. I saw a ranger on Bridgeview

trail two weeks ago week, walking from Monterey down to Bridgeview Rd.

He says he does the hike a couple times a month. I talked with the same

ranger at Red Boys Pizza last Wednesday night.  The Oakland Bike Patrol

(who are OPD volunteers) ride through the canyon weekly - 150+ hours in

Dimond and JMP so far this year. Looking through the OBP ride logs and

off leash dogs are reported on almost every ride. Almost without

exception, folks site that there are no signs and they didn't realize

Dimond is a leashed park. There is no sign at the Benevides trail head,

and poor signs at Monterey and Bridgeview. (One women told me the other

day that the sign on Bridgeview said "please" so it was just a

suggestions - go figure :-( .) We would do well to try and increase the

signage and volunteer patrols. For the most part we can expect little

help from an over burdened police department struggling to put officers

on the streets, much less patrol the canyon.



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