[Fosc] Heartbreaking video of fishing in Sausal Creek

Steve Gold steve.gold54 at gmail.com
Fri Dec 15 14:19:16 PST 2017


I really enjoyed this list serve more when it was more about wildlife photos.

Any way you guys can agree to disagree? Or reply directly rather than reply to all?

Thanks

> On Dec 15, 2017, at 2:13 PM, gabriel0689 via Fosc <fosc at lists.sausalcreek.org> wrote:
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> I respect and agree with your concerns for the fish and other wildlife.  I am against poaching.  My concerns were with the possibilities that the poachers were homeless because of the location not to legitimise the poaching but to have compassion for them.
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> From: Englund <englund at aol.com>
> Date: 12/15/17 1:47 PM (GMT-08:00)
> To: gabriel0689 <gabriel0689 at sbcglobal.net>
> Cc: Christopher Cook <christopherxcook at gmail.com>, FOSC <fosc at lists.sausalcreek.org>, DIA <dimond-news-group at googlegroups.com>, glenfriends Listserv <glenfriends at yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [Fosc] Heartbreaking video of fishing in Sausal Creek
> 
> There are 7.6 billion humans on the planet. A McDonald's fish fillet cost less then $4. Hardly does it make sense to threaten an entire species because one guy wants a fish fillet. I think it's completely reasonable that people are upset about someone illegally poaching wildlife. 
> 
> Brent
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>> On Dec 15, 2017, at 12:07 PM, gabriel0689 via Fosc <fosc at lists.sausalcreek.org> wrote:
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>> The video had been removed when I tried to view it.  I may be mistaken but it is difficult for me to imagine, for example, employed construction workers taking a lunch break, catching the fish, cleaning it, starting the fire and cooking it by the creekside or doing that before or after work.  
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>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Christopher Cook <christopherxcook at gmail.com>
>> Date: 12/15/17 11:30 AM (GMT-08:00)
>> To: gabriel0689 <gabriel0689 at sbcglobal.net>
>> Cc: Emily Baker Lohr <emilylohr at gmail.com>, "Tim L. PINE" <tpine at berkeley.edu>, FOSC <fosc at lists.sausalcreek.org>, DIA <dimond-news-group at googlegroups.com>, glenfriends Listserv <glenfriends at yahoogroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Fosc] Heartbreaking video of fishing in Sausal Creek
>> 
>> Maybe you didn’t notice that this was posted for an ‘extreme fishing’ site and that one of the guys is apparently an employed worker - he has on a safety worker vest.  It doesn’t look as though these  are hungry homeless people but self-promoting idiots consciously violating the law. 
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>>> On Dec 14, 2017, at 4:04 PM, gabriel0689 via Fosc <fosc at lists.sausalcreek.org> wrote:
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>>> Far more heartbreaking is the presence of marginalized human beings who are forced by conditions in a society that cares more about the ecological niche of a species of fish, which in evolutionary terms ranks lower than a snake, than that of fellow human beings living homeless, in the cold, eating from polluted waters. While the trout  struggles to find It's home in Sausal creek, Homosapiens are on the brink of extinction not only for a disregard of other species of life but for a disregard of his own.  While you mentioned a sadness for many reasons, your focal point, your Gestalt, was the fish. 
>>> Gabriel
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>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: Emily Baker Lohr via Fosc <fosc at lists.sausalcreek.org>
>>> Date: 12/14/17 1:49 PM (GMT-08:00)
>>> To: "Tim L. PINE" <tpine at berkeley.edu>
>>> Cc: FOSC <fosc at lists.sausalcreek.org>, DIA <dimond-news-group at googlegroups.com>, glenfriends Listserv <glenfriends at yahoogroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Fosc] Heartbreaking video of fishing in Sausal Creek
>>> 
>>> One of the youtube comments is from A Hernandez and congratulates "brodie," so that's a start. Save a copy of the video in case the user takes it down (which he may decide to do, after seeing Kimra's comment). The account also has several other video uploads, so there are more chances to figure out who this is.
>>> 
>>> Emily
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>>>> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Tim L. PINE via Fosc <fosc at lists.sausalcreek.org> wrote:
>>>> That's an expensive fish if CDFW catches the angler.  
>>>> 
>>>> We feel your pain; Codornices Ck.sees a persistent poaching pressure as well.  A colleague witnessed a steelhead being pan fried over an open fire in a creekside encampment down by the railroad culverts.  Very sad for so many reasons.
>>>> 
>>>> Tim
>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 9:58 PM, Stan Dodson via Fosc <fosc at lists.sausalcreek.org> wrote:
>>>>> Does anyone know these guys? 
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqC8Cv5UhG4
>>>>> 
>>>>> Stan Dodson
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